In this week’s episode, we talk with our friend Porter about recent protests in the Middle East. We spend a lot of time talking about Islam – the first show in which we’ve spent a lot of time talking about that particular faith. We talk about the idea of wanting to kill someone in the name of what amounts to an imaginary friend and we get pretty riled up about it. Then Porter answers our five questions and when he gets to his sandwich, we get riled up about that too. Because who doesn’t get riled up about BACON? Except Nick, of course, because he can’t eat bacon. Oh well…more for the rest of us.
Show notes below the fold:
In case you don’t know anything about “The Innocence of Muslims,” here is a link. It’s only 13 minutes long and about the worst filmmaking you’ll ever see.
We talked about some information Neil Gaiman posted about the situation on his blog.
We also talked about atheists being arrested for their views in other countries. This is a link to a petition working to help free Alber Saber, an atheist who was arrested in Egypt during the riots.
For more information about the films we discussed during the five questions, here’s a link to their IMDB pages:
And finally, here’s a picture of Porter’s deep fried bacon (in the colander on the right)!
In reference to the parts of the bible that got left out that Porter was talking about. I picked up a book called “The Apocryphal Jesus” back in high school which was a collection of some of those rejected books. Interesting stuff, some of it was as tedious as the rest of the bible, but some of it was pretty dark. Worth a read if you’re into that sort of thing.
I will check it out
You AoN people need to get Gravatars. They will work when posting on pretty much any wordpress site, even if just leaving a comment.
Here is my drawing of Mohammed –> .
He is very far away.
BLASPHEMY!!!!!
Here are video links for the IMDB links.
The Gamers: Dorkness Rising
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwtH5oQqHPg
The Wild Hunt (trailer)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WENre45f13c
Okay, a quick fact-check on the Council of Nicaea. Nicaea only settled a creed that includes the definition of the Trinity (which is a complex metaphysical statement, not *only* the belief in the 3 persons as Father/Son/Holy Spirit). The Biblical canon was *not* settled officially in any capacity until the 15th-16th century or so. The first circulated list for the canon is late second century. It became predominant after Constantine picked up that list. 2 books that were always hotly contested to be in the list for the canon were always Revelation and Hebrews. We also do have some of the extra-canonical books, including The Gospel of Thomas, The Infancy Gospel of Thomas, The Shepherd of Hermis, The Book of Enoch (also known as the 4 books of Enoch, which are referenced from the Book of Jude). Catholics also include 6 non-canonical works that they distribute with many Catholic printings of the canon, but not as the canon itself. Some of these works are quite funny, though most of them are “obviously” very late writings, some of them 3rd century.
I hope you guys don’t mind Bible geekery from atheists.
Oh, and on Catholicism re: aniconism, the RSV leaves out “graven images” and just says idols. I don’t know about which one is more correct and don’t really care, I don’t get into the intra-faith fights, though I do make it a point to know who believes what. Still listening to the podcast.
Thanks for the clarifying comments!
We love geekery of any kind, especially when it’s aimed at educating us!
If you liked The Gamers: Dorkness Rising you should also see the first one, which is simply called The Gamers. That one was made on a tiny budget and I think it is hilarious and amazing.
Thanks, Mud! We’ll check it out.