Episode 194 – Prog Rock

prlogosquare9This week, we have our second Vermin Kickstarter supporter – Mark Monforti!  Mark tells us a little bit about how a Catholic teacher turned him into an atheist and then we talk about Progressive (Prog) Rock!  Molly totally nerds out on this topic.  Nick and Tim do their best to keep up.

Note: this episode was recorded remotely.  That means there is are a few weird pauses and instances where we talk over each other.  In a few spots, one of the speakers was silenced so the conversation flowed better.

Show notes below the fold:

Mark sent a list of “gateway songs” for people interested in Prog rock:

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Here’s a link to progrock.com.

Also, you can listen to Mark’s show, Music in Widescreen, here!

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2 Responses to Episode 194 – Prog Rock

  1. Your guest, Mark, this week may know a lot about prog rock, but I think he’s wrong about the designated hitter, in at least why it was adopted by the American League. In 1973, when the American League began using the DH it was not because of racism. The National League broke the color barrier in 1947 when the Brooklyn Dodgers put Jackie Robinson on the team. The American League followed suit that same year when the Cleveland Indians put Larry Doby on the team.

    By the 1970s, both leagues were fully integrated and there were and had been plenty of great black players in the American League. Players such as Frank Robinson, Reggie Jackson, and Rod Carew all played in the American League.

    The designated hitter was implemented in 1973 in the American League due to the dominance of the pitchers in the 1960s (other changes were implemented e.g. lowering the pitcher’s mound and expanding the strike zone) and lagging attendance of that leagues games.

    It was not due to racism. I’m not sure where Mark got that idea. I have watched Ken Burns’ Baseball many, many, MANY times, I don’t recall race being the reason for going to the designated hitter.

    Of course, as always, I could be wrong.

  2. First of all your right I did not see it there I just looked at the Charles Finley section. Ill try and find the source for that. It might have been an Interview with Ken Burns. Second of all you are my hero for watching KBB multiple times.

    Point remains in 1968 there were only three black HOF’s playing in the AL and Frank Robinson who had been playing in the NL 10 years earlier was one of the three the other two being Larry Doby and Rod Carew (1969 Reggie Jackson was the fourth). In the NL there are three cubs alone by 1966. Fergie Jenkins Billy Wiliams Ernie Banks. Then lets add Jeckie Robinson Willy Mays Hank Aaron, Roberto Clemente, Juan Marishal, Lou Brock Frank Robinson, Roy Campanella, Monte Irvin al in NL. The AL was so slow integrating that Bill Veeck owned and integrated two different teams in the AL Indians and White Sox.


    Charles Finley not only wanted DH but he also wanted Orange Baseballs, 2 strikes your our 3 balls for a walk.

    Every Idea just as ludicrous as the DH.

    In an attempt to make attendance figures look better the AL also changed the Paid Attendance that year from Paid and Attended to just Paid. NL Followed suite in 1996.

    Just yesterday I watched Jason Hammel get his 6th and 7th rbi of the season in just his 13th game. Greg Maddux won more games because he could bunt and move runners over. To lose the double switch in Baseball

    If we had the DH from the beginning Babe Ruth could have had 714 less HRs.

    It was such poorly thought out rule that Earl Weaver made a travesty of the Rule and they had to change it